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Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Fri, 24 May 2013 11:28:52 GMT

@Jamie -
You are quite right, the amnesty movement is nothing more than a democrat voter registration drive, and it never was; this is why they stick their fingers in their ears when someone compromises with the idea that those granted amnesty may never vote.

@Bassboat -
We are of one mind - this need never have happened. This is a mixture of traitorous behaviour on the part of Democrats and Ted Kennedy in particular, and Republican cowardice on the other. Do I think we can deport x-million illegals in the current climate? No, my friend, but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Anything short of that invites a greater invasion.

California used to be a Republican outpost; since the 1986 amnesty, it went Democrat and never looked back. Texas is the next objective. While I of course care little for party politics, the need for an opposition party of some sort is desperate, and allowing that many welfare recipients and non-English speakers to stick around and vote is party suicide first, and national suicide second.

I'm not sure where people got the idea that persons outside our borders have any right to come here, but if we are to survive, that has to stop yesterday. Citizens should expect that their rights and property are jealously guarded by their government and that their nation is feared by the rest of the world; unfortunately, the opposite is true. Foreigners understand that the more hostile and belligerent they are, the friendlier the American government will be to them, and citizens now fear for their rights and property.

Never mind polls that say that 60-something percent would like to see this 'path to citizenship' -- I'm convinced that this is as high as it is because people fear the 'racist' label, and for that, I'm equally as sure that most illegals care about citizenship only inasmuch as it earns them more free stuff.

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Fri, 24 May 2013 05:40:47 GMT

Brother John,
If I had my way this situation would have never occurred. We can thank the Republicans for allowing this to happen for the most part and Teedy for his role. I am trying to take a pragmatic approach to the disaster that we have on our hands. You will note in my offer of a solution that the illegals have to take a citizenship course created by Hillsdale College and pay for it. This alone would run most of them back to whereever they came from leaving the US the best of the illegals. Yes I know they broke the law but do you really think that we can export 20,000,000 illegals right now with our political climate?

As for the chicken coop analogy don't you want a secure border so this won't happen again? Of course you do. It won't undo what has been done but it will prevent it from happening in the future.

Really Brother, how you think that I would want this situation?

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Fri, 24 May 2013 03:15:26 GMT

For some reason the left wingers want to welcome criminals into our country by the millions.
They are criminals. If someone broke into your home and damaged your personal property, I would not be upset, and would forgive them that trespass, but if they broke into my home, I would do my best to kill them before they done any damage. Whether the left wing idiots liked or not.
Peace, Robert Walkere

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Fri, 24 May 2013 03:15:01 GMT

You shouldn't be mystified, Brother John. Those who say they need a path to citizenship want them to be able to vote. The Democrats have nothing constructive to offer. All they can do is rob working people and pay leeches to vote for them. The real term is, "undocumented Democrats."

This is deliberate. Ted Kennedy was the main sponsor for the original legislation that let them in.

They're deporting themselves as the economy went bad so it can be done. Sherri f Joe is right - make it unpleasant enough, they will go.

Democrats can't stand that - they need the votes.

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Fri, 24 May 2013 02:25:31 GMT

@Bassboat

I must confess, I am totally and completely mystified by those who say that those people already here need a 'path to citizenship.'

Why would we want to reward people whose first act in this country was illegal? Why would we reward such people even after the economic chaos they've caused? Why would we put them on a pathway to becoming even greater sponges than they already are? Why would we create an even more powerful magnet for the next wave, just as the '86 Amnesty surely did - despite protestations that it would not? Why would we invite greater economic disruption, drunken driving deaths, demographic destruction, and temptation to /reconquistas/? Why would you cheapen your own (and my!) citizenship in this way?

This truly makes no sense based on the content of the rest of your post. I, too, am infuriated by "para Espanol, marque el dos" but allowing those here who do not belong to stay is amnesty without the name and will only create more of the same. We're dealing with a people a third of which are here to claim goodies, a third of which are here to 'reclaim' ancestral lands, and a third of which are here to work and send money back home.

Most tellingly, I find it interesting that when we reply to cries for amnesty or citizenship by saying Fine, OK, but only if none of those here now are ever permitted to vote, they don't like that very much.

To modify your own analogy, it does little good to lock the chicken coop door when the weasel is already inside.

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Thu, 23 May 2013 16:48:17 GMT

Where to start? We have a dilemma, overcrowded immigrants and no way to get rid of them. That is the hard truth and how to deal with it is the real problem. Yes, we should lock the barn door in order to keep out any more uneducated immigrants and that should be priority one. The ones that are here need a path to citizenship. Many things can be done and most all are against what our rulers won't allow. Step one: only English is taught in the schools. No more press 2 for Spanish. A history lesson on American history on what made us great, freedom and the right to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness. This history lesson needs to be written by Hillsdale College and be a 4 year course that the student pays for out of his pocket in order to become a citizen. They must pass the course or no citizenship. We must have people who understand our culture or we will become another Europe. Will this happen? No, but we should try.

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:07:48 GMT

@Matthew

You are absolutely right, the job market continues to shrink relative to the population and demand largely because of over-regulation and government impositions that create paralysis and stagnation.

But discounting the effect that essentially unrestricted immigration has had is to ignore the other half of the supply/demand equation. Just as jobs are not created because of government-sponsored paralysis, the increase in the demand for jobs drives down wages as competition for those jobs becomes tougher and tougher.

Simply put, the political left has decided long ago that Americans as they existed a hundred years ago were arrogant, racist, and far too self-sufficient to bend to the will of their moral superiors, and so they have chosen to dissolve the people and elect another.

By diluting the supply of Americans who might feel responsible for transmitting their birthright onto their own descendants, we are taking on untold millions of those who come here for work, yes, but without bringing any worthwhile tradition or skill with them. Essentially, they are here steal our prosperity while having no understanding where it came from.

If you wish to help these people, then export the traditions and principles that led to our prosperity. Teach them that bribery is not a method by which one conveys one's seriousness, for example. They should learn that equal treatment before the law and respect for the property of others is absolutely essential. These are qualities that are disappearing from our own character. There is no particular reason to bring immigrants of any kind from any place - decades of unchecked swarms besieging the U.S. has done enough damage and we need to achieve equilibrium - and besides that, when the real unemployment is north of 15% and the underemployment rate is even worse, why further depress the job market?

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Thu, 23 May 2013 14:35:22 GMT

There are various forces at work that pummel us from all sides. First, there is the lie that we are overcrowded. Rhode Island is our most densely populated State, yet about 2/3 of the State is wilderness or farm land.
Travel across this country and see the miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles. I have done it recently, and am amazed that anyone would believe that we are overcrowded.
The various governments have confiscated the land for its own use. We are prevented from visiting the wild lands that the governments of our nation has set aside by implementing the tenets of Agenda 21. That is the agenda of the United Nations, and the New World Order of which Hitler and George H. W. Bush spoke.
If it is illegal, it is illegal and those who commit illegal acts are called criminals. A government that refuses to prosecute criminals is a rogue government, and is promoting anarchy, the precursor to tyranny. Don't confuse the government with the sewer main media of the television and Hollywood with the people in the land.
The original, organic Constitution FOR the United States of America empowered a limited government to exist. It was limited even to the geographical area, and was to be situated outside the United States of America, and it was properly placed in a swamp.
The first 10 amendments called The Bill of Rights, and should probably have been named "A Bill of Further Limitations" put more limits on the government. Try this link for further information: ournaturalrights/the originalthirteenthamendment Peace, Robert Walker

Re: Over-Immigration and the Death of the Middle Class

Thu, 23 May 2013 13:52:24 GMT

I think you've absolutely missed the mark on this one. The reason there is an over supply of labor is because unending government regulation prevents all but the very bravest of entrepreneurs from attempting to create new demand for labor. Who but the most talented would even dare to try creating jobs for these huddled masses? Don't blame the immigrant "oversupply", blame the increasing lack of opportunity for the marginal entrepreneur.

Re: Nobody Wants the First Pill

Tue, 21 May 2013 23:09:17 GMT

@Bassboat you know that and I know that. I suspect that our ruling elites know it, too. BUT they get so many votes by lying about it that they aren't about to stop.

Democrats have nothing else to offer BUT redistribution. Government doesn't add value, it destroys value. Government programs don't make clients better off, government programs lock people in and boost the budget.

Even some liberals are admitting that pushing kids to colleges where they can't make it via affirmative action hurts more than it helps.

JFK's "man on the moon by the end of the decade" inspired a HUGE amount of economic activity and wealth creation. Then came LBJ's Great Society with its war on poverty. JFK's program was the LAST Democrat program that actually benefited the country.

However, the people on the dole want to stay there and vote accordingly. It's hard to run against Santa Claus.

Re: Nobody Wants the First Pill

Tue, 21 May 2013 20:20:21 GMT

When human lives are at stake even then the government has no role in pricing in a free society. The company that developed the drug spent at least hundreds of millions, probably billions on that drug. The drug companies do not manufacture drugs and cater to the rich, they cater to their stockholders. If drug companies were compelled to sell at what congress of all people thought was a fair price then we would have few drugs discovered. To miss this point is either socialistic/communistic in thinking or does not understand how we became the shining light on the hill to the rest of the world. It is only with profit can someone benefit from these drug discoveries.

Re: Nobody Wants the First Pill

Tue, 21 May 2013 11:13:12 GMT

The Times is at least consistent. They dn't like genetic patents either:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/opinion/the-outrageous-cost-of-a-gene-test.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130521&_r=0

I’m all for innovation and the right to protect intellectual property, but when there is a clear monopoly and human lives are at stake, we need legislative action for rational and appropriate pricing. We don’t make vaccines prohibitively expensive so only the rich can protect themselves. Nor should we let other preventive measures that can save thousands of lives be priced at levels far above what normal “market conditions” would suggest.

Re: The Return of Nullification

Mon, 20 May 2013 03:25:19 GMT

Brother John,

Your adjective describing Boortz "Great" is correct. Boortz for president. He's the only one out there who can take on the morons of the press in the media.

Re: The Return of Nullification

Mon, 20 May 2013 02:19:46 GMT

@all other commenters:

Quite right. The Constitution overrides state laws only in matters in which the federal government is authorized to act. This is chiefly to prevent having more than one foreign policy. Congress is not, in fact, authorized to act in matters of health care, environmental concerns, motor vehicle construction or operation, or pretty much anywhere else that it pokes it grubby little fingers in.

The "commerce clause" exists to define terms on which business can be conducted and disputes resolved across state lines.

The great Neal Boortz was fond of pointing out the governments of foreign nations all over the world have representatives in Washington -- but none of the states do, since 1913. Their and thus our sovereignty has thus been eroded, and that was the goal all along.

Re: Libertarianism, Conservatism's Last Refuge

Tue, 14 May 2013 21:08:39 GMT

"The problem with true fiscal conservatism isn't that it's failed, it's that it hasn't been tried since Calvin Coolidge." - Brilliant! Thank god someone is saying this. On the other hand, as a moderate who likes to play both sides of the chess board, I think that the right lost their power when they started fighting the Left in the culture wars rather than concentrating on running the country correctly (and leaving the kids to their debauchery). Specifically, I think the Moral Majority was the canary in the coalmine for the Republican party. So much energy wasted with nothing to show for it. What the right doesn't seem to understand is that the majority is currently voting democrat because they just want people to get along. They are sick and tired of fighting their Fox-fueled angry relatives across the dinner table. They want peace more than they want gay marriage or legal pot. The Right will continue to fade unless they concentrate on issues of liberty, small government, and fiscal conservatism (and that means that we can't sustain multiple global wars for 20+ years) and they move away from moral issues and conspiracy theories. The Right needs to take the high road and be the grown-ups in this relationship.

Re: The Return of Nullification

Tue, 14 May 2013 00:58:59 GMT

Petrarch looks as if he has read, "Secession, State. & Liberty" edited by David Gordon and assisted by the Ludwig von Mises institute. It makes a powerful argument for states rights via the 10th amendment. It, in my opinion, is a mandatory read for anyone who cares about an over reaching federal government. It is not like it take a lot of interpretation like many judges do when deciding how a case should end up but it is simple.

The KGB predicted about 8-10 years ago that the US would break up into 6 different districts ruled by themselves. The federal government would lose its power as it should except when protecting the citizens and basic rights of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and property. Google it if you would like to see what the KGB thinks.

It is my opinion that this will one day happen but not anytime soon unless of course we as a people return to states rights.

Re: The Return of Nullification

Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:13 GMT

The Constitution for the United States of America is the supreme law of the land within the confines of the original oranic document, and the first 12 Articles of Amendment.
The Federal Government got its power from the States. The States got their power from the People. The People, then, are ultimately the Supreme Law of the Land, if they care to assert themselves. As in the case of Wyoming.
Missouri has enacted a law that makes English the official language of the State. If one wants a driver's license, one must learn English because that is the only language the test is given in, and the only language that the books are printed in. If one is applying for welfare, all the forms are printed in English only. The illegal aliens have pretty much left the State.
Utah has enacted a law making gold and silver legal tender. Arizona has a similar law.
Now is the time to contact all of the members of the State Legislatures and get similar laws passed in your respective States.
Governor Brewer has also instituted a State Militia separate and distinct from the National Guard and the Reserves.
Something can and is being done. Peace, Robert Walker

Re: The Return of Nullification

Mon, 13 May 2013 17:31:32 GMT

I disagree with this:

"On the face of things, legal scholars are right: the Constitution is "the supreme law of the land" and Federal laws overrule state ones."

Federal laws are only supposed to override state ones where they have jurisdiction (ie. constitutional authority). If a state makes the case that the feds have no jurisdiction, I see no reason that the state law shouldn't trump the fed law.

For instance, take the myriad environmental laws handed down by the utterly unconstitutional EPA. There is no federal jurisdiction (ie. constitutional authority) to mandate most of those things since the vast majority do not pertain to interstate commerce or fed land. Therefore, a state should be well within its rights to make a law nullifying the entire lot.

Note: I use the word "should" purposefully since "is" is sadly incorrect.

Re: Is Your Job an Insurance Fraud?

Tue, 07 May 2013 17:14:54 GMT

We don't have to die at our desk. We can open our own business, but as it was pointed out there's more and more disincentive to do so. Imagine two hundred years ago what our options were: either we joined our father's vocation (farm, masonry, etc) or were fortunate to take on an apprenticeship in some sort of skilled-labor shop. There were no college degrees that gave us career choices, we should consider ourselves lucky that there are people out there willing to give us jobs working for their business. I mean, after all, there is only so many of us that can have government jobs.

Re: Is Your Job an Insurance Fraud?

Tue, 07 May 2013 16:09:45 GMT

So true, and sad. Wasn't life meant to be full of wonder and beauty? Greed is killing us and we all just keep slaving away to keep the psychopaths rolling in dosh. I keep thinking I'll wake up from this bad dream but I know I won't. I'll probably die in my 80's at my desk.